On this episode of the Brewer to Brewer Podcast Sean Buchan of Cerebral Brewing interviews Shaun Kalis of Ruse Brewing. The two talk about the evolution of beer and their techniques before settling into the way Ruse approaches its food program. Pizza has long been a perfect pairing for beer, and when both are done well, its harmonious. Kalis talks about he and his partners and chefs worked to dial in a pizza program that would stand out in Portland, Oregon and pay correct homage to regional pizza styles.
It is a smart look at how to approach building a menu for a brewery with lessons that everyone can benefit from hearing.
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