There are many paths to becoming a brewer and they all take hard work and dedication.

On this episode of the Brewer to Brewer podcast Ashleigh Carter of Bierstadt Lagerhaus talks with Tonya Cornett of 10 Barrel Brewing and go deep into the early years of craft beer in America and the work it takes to earn respect.

From overcoming mistakes and discussing the very real dangers of working as a brewer, to celebrating successes and the joys of experimentation the duo then tackle diversity in the industry. More than just brewery hires and perspectives, Carter and Cornett make the case for more diverse voices on conference panels, in news articles, and at events.

Brewer to Brewer episode 5.

What is the question neither wants to be asked again? They answer that along with insight to where they would like to see brewing progress and passionate areas of focus.

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Firsd Tea is a proud sponsor of the Brewer to Brewer podcast. They have been working with brewers on a wide range of ingredients in delicious beers. Firsd Tea combines the flexibility of order sizes with the experience you need to create innovative and successful tea beers. They get you the most direct-from-farm tea selection so you are working with flavorful and consistent products. You can find out more about Firsd Tea’s collaborations with brewers and tea ingredients by visiting blog.firsdtea.com.

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John Holl is the editor of All About Beer Magazine.